[Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash

Tue Sep 22 16:59:37 EDT 2009

Wayne you are correct.  Stronger is not the perfect word to describe the new cars.  They are better at transferring impact energies around the passenger compartment.  Rather then allowing the impact forces to bang up the occupants, the frame rails crush and absorb some energy then the extremely strong passenger cage transfers the remaining energy around the passengers.  Pure strength does come into play on the sides, the rockers, pillars and doors, since the vehicle manufacturers have about 6-8 inches at most to stop a incoming impact.  

Roarke

From: badchevelles at hotmail.com
To: chevelle-list at chevelles.net
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:35:31 -0400
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash

Interesting discussion. Many of you hit the nail on the head except IMHO the 09 and most modern designed cars are not "Stronger" but  there engineered to be  energy absorbing in the uni-shell construction.   The  Shock absorbing crush paneled design in the 09 is obvious in the film. STRONGER Solid is not always better

my .02

Wayne 

From: rvaeponce at q.com
To: chevelle-list at chevelles.net
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:23:09 +0000
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash

I have to agree with Tom.  The front structure in that 09 Malibu is incredibly strong, just like in just about every 09 sedan now made.  http://www.goodwrench.com/gmgoodwrenchjsp/gmspo/Chevrolet/Malibu/2008/02_Structure_Identification.pdf shows what metals are in the front.  As for the airbag timing, the computer in a modern car can detect a collision event in 1-3 milliseconds.  The airbags are deployed in 3-5 milliseconds after that.  The above average human reaction time is 7 hundreds or a second.  (.0001 for the computer and .07 for the human { http://www.visualexpert.com/Resources/reactiontime.html }).  If you look close at that video or any other with a modern airbag deployment, you see that the occupants head is actually deflected away from the steering wheel, to the left side in this case.  Yes, he probably would have soft tissue damage (whiplash) but he will walk away.

I work in a collision shop and every day I hear people say things like Kevin did here.  But they do not realize that they are still alive after that wreck because the new car they drive is so incredibly strong.  Most wrecks people have today would have killed someone if they happened in a "old" car.  Just my 2 cents.

Roarke Ponce
Shop Manager
Excel Auto Body, LLC
I-CAR Platinum Individual
ASE Master Tech Repair, Refinish and Estimating

From: bluess454 at comcast.net
To: chevelle-list at chevelles.net
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:55:24 -0400
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash

I got some news for you therre skippy.  That 2009 car is built from much stronger metal than the 59 Impala is.  Not to mention the 2009 car is much more structurally sound than the 59 as well as the fact that the metal in the 59 has had 50 years to begin deteriorating.  News cars are designed so the passenger compartment doesn't crush and it did it's job.  That video is very real.  If you were driving the 59 Impala in that video..you'd be dead, period.

Tom Rightler
MCC Newsletter Editor

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Kevin Brown 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash

That"s Bullshit!! No Way Would That 2009 Stand Up Against The 59. I Have Seen Alot Of Wrecks in My Day That 59 Would of Cut The 2009 In Half!! What Did They Do To The 59 Take Out All The Fender Bolts Etc.. I Had A 61 That Knocked Over A Friggin Tree And Only Put A V In The Front. Yes It Was A Waste Of A Beautiful Car But Re-Look The Video Over Can't Be Real.. Slight Knee Injury?? The Air Bags Was Too Slow To Deploy. Look at The Dummy In The 2009"s Head Is Whips The Steering Wheel Like A Bag Of Oranges....Ask Me I Would Rather Have A 59 Anyday If I Was Gonna Crash Into Today"s Cars.. 

Kevin...
Father To Holly,Lisa,Jacob,Shianna,Tyler
Grandpa To Many LOL

--- On Mon, 9/21/09, Larry Williams <larrydwilliams at hughes.net> wrote:

From: Larry Williams <larrydwilliams at hughes.net>
Subject: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash
To: "Chevelle List" <chevelle-list at chevelles.net>
Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 9:58 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CU-k0XmLUk

What a waste of a beautiful classic car.  As*holes!

Larry
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