[Chevelle-list] Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 74, Issue 19

Don Holloway casadoctor at hotmail.com
Wed Sep 23 08:23:08 EDT 2009


Why do so many people here think they need to argue or insult each other?

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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:58:25 -0400

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From: TinIndian47 at aol.com
To: chevelle-list at chevelles.net
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:02:26 -0400
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash








I thought this was for Chevelles, enough is enough!!!!!!!!!!
 

In a message dated 9/22/2009 8:00:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
bluess454 at comcast.net writes:

  No, sorry , you don't know what you are talking 
  about.  Show me your certs. for collison repair/refinishing then MAYBE 
  i'll take into consideration what you THINK.  I've been through the ASE 
  collison repair/refinishing classes so I happen to know a little about what 
  I'm talking about.  New vehicles are FAR superior to cars made 20+ years 
  ago in the crash survival department.
  Your cash for clunkers reference just shows how 
  much you REALLY know, which is nothing.  Vehicles 25 years and older were 
  never eligible for that program...next.  ALSO, unless you were in that 
  lab where that crash video was filmed (Which I am positive you were not), you 
  have absolutley no right to claim as to what the conditions were with either 
  of the 2 vehicles
   
  By the way, learn how to type 
  properly.
  
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: 
    Kevin Brown 
    To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
    
    Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 6:59 
    PM
    Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube 
    crash
    

    
      
      
        You Do The Research.. How Many Are Thrown From Vehicles 
          Today VS. Yesteryear!! The Doors Today Are Glued On The Latches Give 
          Way See How Many At Totally Trown Fron The Car Today Vs In The Early 
          Years.. I KNOW What I Am Talking About I Have Worked On Cars For 50 
          Years.. But Bottom Line Is The Video In Question And The 59 Was Not 
          Bolted Together To Give Everybody The Idea That They Are Better, Just 
          Another Cash For Clunkers Video. Trade Off The Old Buy The 
          New..

Kevin...
Father To 
          Holly,Lisa,Jacob,Shianna,Tyler
Grandpa To Many LOL

--- On 
          Tue, 9/22/09, Tom Rightler <bluess454 at comcast.net> 
          wrote:

          
From: 
            Tom Rightler <bluess454 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: 
            [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
            <chevelle-list at chevelles.net>
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 
            2009, 4:23 PM


            
            You're an idiot, sorry, but that's just 
            the truth.  Old cars, old engineering.  They aren't 
            deisgned to be energy absorbing..new cars are. Early 
            Iron...best route..hardly.  How many people were killed in 
            wrecks back then compared to now....do some research before you go 
            shooting off what you OPINION is vs. what the TRUTH is.
             
             
             
             
             
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            
              From: Kevin Brown 
              To: The Chevelle Mailing 
              List 
              Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 
              2009 8:10 AM
              Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 
              OT:YouTube crash
              

              
                
                
                  
Well It Is Clear To Me That Your Blind 
                    And I Am Sorry For That You Never Watched The Video 
                    Correctly Then The Dudes Head In The 2009 Hit The Steering 
                    Wheel To Life Threathing Blows. How Can You Possible Say 
                    That The 2009 Is Made Better?? Look At The Junkyards They 
                    Are Full Of Them Ya Tap The Dam Things The Front End FALLS 
                    off. Plastic Junk.. They Haven't Made A Decent Car Since The 
                    Early 80"s I Own A 2007 Malibu It Is Junk Compared To My 70 
                    SS... Yep Hands Down The Early Iron Is The Best Route. I 
                    Think I Have More Metal In My Engine Alone Then Is What"s In 
                    The Whole 2009. Ya Know I Used To Make Them 2009"s When I 
                    Was A Kid. They Was Called Models I Glued Together. 
                    LMAO!!!!
Kevin...
Father To 
                    Holly,Lisa,Jacob,Shianna,Tyler
Grandpa To Many 
                    LOL

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Tom Rightler 
                    <bluess454 at comcast.net> wrote:

                    
From: 
                      Tom Rightler <bluess454 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: 
                      [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash
To: "The Chevelle 
                      Mailing List" <chevelle-list at chevelles.net>
Date: 
                      Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 6:55 AM


                      
                      

                      I got some news for you 
                      therre skippy.  That 2009 car is built from much 
                      stronger metal than the 59 Impala is.  Not to mention 
                      the 2009 car is much more structurally sound than the 59 
                      as well as the fact that the metal in the 59 has had 50 
                      years to begin deteriorating.  News cars are designed 
                      so the passenger compartment doesn't crush and it did it's 
                      job.  That video is very real.  If you were 
                      driving the 59 Impala in that video..you'd be dead, 
                      period.
                       
                      Tom Rightler
MCC 
                      Newsletter Editor
                      
                        ----- Original Message 
                        ----- 
                        From: 
                        Kevin Brown 
                        To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
                        
                        Sent: Tuesday, 
                        September 22, 2009 1:46 AM
                        Subject: Re: 
                        [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash
                        

                        
                          
                          
                            That"s Bullshit!! No Way Would That 
                              2009 Stand Up Against The 59. I Have Seen Alot Of 
                              Wrecks in My Day That 59 Would of Cut The 2009 In 
                              Half!! What Did They Do To The 59 Take Out All The 
                              Fender Bolts Etc.. I Had A 61 That Knocked Over A 
                              Friggin Tree And Only Put A V In The Front. Yes It 
                              Was A Waste Of A Beautiful Car But Re-Look The 
                              Video Over Can't Be Real.. Slight Knee Injury?? 
                              The Air Bags Was Too Slow To Deploy. Look at The 
                              Dummy In The 2009"s Head Is Whips The Steering 
                              Wheel Like A Bag Of Oranges......Ask Me I Would 
                              Rather Have A 59 Anyday If I Was Gonna Crash Into 
                              Today"s Cars.. 

Kevin...
Father To 
                              Holly,Lisa,Jacob,Shianna,Tyler
Grandpa To Many 
                              LOL

--- On Mon, 9/21/09, Larry Williams 
                              <larrydwilliams at hughes.net> 
                              wrote:

                              
From: 
                                Larry Williams 
                                <larrydwilliams at hughes.net>
Subject: 
                                [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash
To: 
                                "Chevelle List" 
                                <chevelle-list at chevelles.net>
Date: 
                                Monday, September 21, 2009, 9:58 PM


                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CU-k0XmLUk

What 
                                a waste of a beautiful classic car.  
                                As*holes!

Larry
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From: rodie40 at gmail.com
To: chevelle-list at chevelles.net
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:06:46 -0400
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Parking brake setups

Hey all,
 I need to redo my parking brakes, but I only see systems for 66 without 400 (They didn't come with them originally) but I have a turbo 400. The system for 400 is listed as a 67? Does anyone know what I should get?

Thanks,
Dan


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From: bluess454 at comcast.net
To: chevelle-list at chevelles.net
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:19:42 -0400
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Parking brake setups










1967 TH400 car.  The front and intermediate 
cables are different length than the non TH400 counterparts due to the 
location of the crossmember.
 
Tom Rightler
MCC Newsletter Editor

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Dan Rachlin 
  
  To: chevelle-list at chevelles.net 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:06 
  PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Parking brake 
  setups
  

  Hey all,
   I need to redo my parking brakes, but I only see systems for 66 
  without 400 (They didn't come with them originally) but I have a turbo 400.. 
  The system for 400 is listed as a 67? Does anyone know what I should 
get?
  Thanks,
  Dan



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From: h20farmboy at yahoo.com
To: chevelle-list at chevelles.net
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:22:55 -0700
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash


On Another Note I Agree With The Rest No Sense Beating A Dead Horse, Everybody Has A Opinion. I Drive My Ride You Drive Yours. As Far As I Am Concerned This Is A Dead Post. not Gonna Get Into Your Mama Is Tougher Then My Mama.. See Ya At The Car Show.. Chev...
Kevin...
Father To Holly,Lisa,Jacob,Shianna,Tyler
Grandpa To Many LOL

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Tom Rightler <bluess454 at comcast.net> wrote:


From: Tom Rightler <bluess454 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <chevelle-list at chevelles.net>
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 7:59 PM



No, sorry , you don't know what you are talking about.  Show me your certs. for collison repair/refinishing then MAYBE i'll take into consideration what you THINK.  I've been through the ASE collison repair/refinishing classes so I happen to know a little about what I'm talking about.  New vehicles are FAR superior to cars made 20+ years ago in the crash survival department.
Your cash for clunkers reference just shows how much you REALLY know, which is nothing.  Vehicles 25 years and older were never eligible for that program...next.  ALSO, unless you were in that lab where that crash video was filmed (Which I am positive you were not), you have absolutley no right to claim as to what the conditions were with either of the 2 vehicles
 
By the way, learn how to type properly.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Kevin Brown 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash





You Do The Research.. How Many Are Thrown From Vehicles Today VS. Yesteryear!! The Doors Today Are Glued On The Latches Give Way See How Many At Totally Trown Fron The Car Today Vs In The Early Years.. I KNOW What I Am Talking About I Have Worked On Cars For 50 Years.. But Bottom Line Is The Video In Question And The 59 Was Not Bolted Together To Give Everybody The Idea That They Are Better, Just Another Cash For Clunkers Video. Trade Off The Old Buy The New..

Kevin...
Father To Holly,Lisa,Jacob,Shianna,Tyler
Grandpa To Many LOL

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Tom Rightler <bluess454 at comcast.net> wrote:


From: Tom Rightler <bluess454 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <chevelle-list at chevelles.net>
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 4:23 PM



You're an idiot, sorry, but that's just the truth.  Old cars, old engineering.  They aren't deisgned to be energy absorbing..new cars are. Early Iron...best route..hardly.  How many people were killed in wrecks back then compared to now....do some research before you go shooting off what you OPINION is vs. what the TRUTH is.
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 

From: Kevin Brown 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash






Well It Is Clear To Me That Your Blind And I Am Sorry For That You Never Watched The Video Correctly Then The Dudes Head In The 2009 Hit The Steering Wheel To Life Threathing Blows. How Can You Possible Say That The 2009 Is Made Better?? Look At The Junkyards They Are Full Of Them Ya Tap The Dam Things The Front End FALLS off. Plastic Junk.. They Haven't Made A Decent Car Since The Early 80"s I Own A 2007 Malibu It Is Junk Compared To My 70 SS... Yep Hands Down The Early Iron Is The Best Route. I Think I Have More Metal In My Engine Alone Then Is What"s In The Whole 2009. Ya Know I Used To Make Them 2009"s When I Was A Kid. They Was Called Models I Glued Together. LMAO!!!!
Kevin...
Father To Holly,Lisa,Jacob,Shianna,Tyler
Grandpa To Many LOL

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Tom Rightler <bluess454 at comcast.net> wrote:


From: Tom Rightler <bluess454 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <chevelle-list at chevelles.net>
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 6:55 AM





I got some news for you therre skippy.  That 2009 car is built from much stronger metal than the 59 Impala is.  Not to mention the 2009 car is much more structurally sound than the 59 as well as the fact that the metal in the 59 has had 50 years to begin deteriorating.  News cars are designed so the passenger compartment doesn't crush and it did it's job.  That video is very real.  If you were driving the 59 Impala in that video..you'd be dead, period.
 
Tom Rightler
MCC Newsletter Editor

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Kevin Brown 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash





That"s Bullshit!! No Way Would That 2009 Stand Up Against The 59. I Have Seen Alot Of Wrecks in My Day That 59 Would of Cut The 2009 In Half!! What Did They Do To The 59 Take Out All The Fender Bolts Etc.. I Had A 61 That Knocked Over A Friggin Tree And Only Put A V In The Front. Yes It Was A Waste Of A Beautiful Car But Re-Look The Video Over Can't Be Real.. Slight Knee Injury?? The Air Bags Was Too Slow To Deploy. Look at The Dummy In The 2009"s Head Is Whips The Steering Wheel Like A Bag Of Oranges......Ask Me I Would Rather Have A 59 Anyday If I Was Gonna Crash Into Today"s Cars.. 

Kevin...
Father To Holly,Lisa,Jacob,Shianna,Tyler
Grandpa To Many LOL

--- On Mon, 9/21/09, Larry Williams <larrydwilliams at hughes.net> wrote:


From: Larry Williams <larrydwilliams at hughes.net>
Subject: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash
To: "Chevelle List" <chevelle-list at chevelles.net>
Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 9:58 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CU-k0XmLUk

What a waste of a beautiful classic car.  As*holes!

Larry
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From: rodie40 at gmail.com
To: chevelle-list at chevelles.net
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:41:51 -0400
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Parking brake setups

Thanks Tom

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Tom Rightler <bluess454 at comcast.net> wrote:








1967 TH400 car.  The front and intermediate 
cables are different length than the non TH400 counterparts due to the 
location of the crossmember.
 
Tom Rightler
MCC Newsletter Editor

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  
From: 
  Dan Rachlin 
  
  To: chevelle-list at chevelles.net 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:06 
  PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Parking brake 
  setups
  

  Hey all,
   I need to redo my parking brakes, but I only see systems for 66 
  without 400 (They didn't come with them originally) but I have a turbo 400.. 
  The system for 400 is listed as a 67? Does anyone know what I should 
get?
  Thanks,
  Dan



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From: f.gondermann at comcast.net
To: chevelle-list at chevelles.net
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:58:10 -0500
Subject: [Chevelle-list] YouTube Crash

I have been a member of this list for over three years and I very rarely
post an email but now I must chime in because if I don't this list won't be
worth the web space it takes up!
 
OK - so everyone has an opinion... nice to see a friendly chat group can be
so obtuse!  Really, is it about what we know or can claim what other don't
know without "Certs" Really?  - It's a video that can be doctored in many
ways or can be 100% factual.  Unless you are part of the Insurance Institute
for Highway Safety and can swear under oath that both cars were built or
restored to 100% factory specs the video is subject to speculation. But as
far as I am concerned this went from a friendly supportive chat group to a
group of borderline hostile "let me prove my point" no-it-alls.  If this is
what the list is becoming; then perhaps the name should change from
Chevelle-list to "What-The-Hell-Do-I-Care-About-Your-Opinion-List"
 
If you all want to continue to argue and attempt to prove your own point -
please do it off line as to not clutter my email.
 
Thanks!
 
Frank
 
 
 		 	   		  
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