[Chevelle-list] wiring question
dhoeschen at granitecityperformance.com
dhoeschen at granitecityperformance.com
Mon Feb 1 22:03:58 EST 2010
I would suggest disconnecting the tan fuel sender feed wire at the fuel tank. Turn the key to RUN position and wait a few moments (some gauges are slow) with the tan wire disconnected the fuel gauge should read past full. Then ground the tan wire anywhere to the body and the gauge should read empty. If you get no response then you have a bad gauge or a wiring problem.
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From: "Tom Rightler" <bluess454 at comcast.net>
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If you want to check the gauges, send 12volts directly to them and see if the needle moves. If the needle moves, the gaugesis good and there are wiring issues elsewhere. I’ve seen brand new sendingunits fail. There should be 12 volts at the bulkhead connector with the key inthe run position for all wiring to the gauges.
Tom
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The sending. unit is grounded to the body, andthe temp sending unit is new. Tom,do you know if there would or should bevoltage at the 12 point connection into the pcb. for the temp and fuelguages
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Is the fuel sending unitgrounded to the body? If the temp gauge isn’t working, it’s usually a problemwith the sending unit screwed into the head.
Tom Rightler
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I'am a firm beliver that there is no such thingas a dumb question. My dash lights are working fine. the dimmer switch isworking I just dont have a temp. guage or a fuel guage.
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Forgive me ifit's a dumb question...did you try rotating the knob? I don't know if1970 had the "dimmer" built into the headlight switch perhaps it'sturned down to the lowest setting or the rheostat is burnt out?
Second, did you check for power at the fuse?
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Yes I do have a schematic. I have a 70 ss withguages. Iam just not sure why the guages are not working.
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Do you have awiring schematic -or- would it help if you had one? What year Chevelle doyou have?
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Dan, The guages are not new nor is the engineharness or the dash harness. And no the guages did not work before. I washoping that putting a new pcb. in would get them working. All the wiring isstill original to the car. I did put voltage to the gas guage when I had it onthe bench and was able to get movement. I used a 9 volt battery and the guagemoved to around 1/2 tank. I then reversed the polarity and the guage went backto E. So with that said I kinda assumed the guages were o k. I reallyappriciate your efforts, Keep pitching maby eventually I'll get a hit. ThanksBob
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Are the gauges new? How about the dash harness and the engine harness? Did thegauges work before you made your changes? The reason I ask is that the pins arein different locations at the firewall. If one harness is from a 70 and onefrom a 71-72 that may cause your problem.
Thanks, Dan
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Dan, Idid ground the cluster with one of the screws that attach the metal to theplastic housing. And all my lights are working, dash lights, head lights, butnone of my guages are working. Fuel, temp, or amp. All of my fuses are good.Any ideas. Thanks Bob
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Bob,
I don't remember if all of the wires in the connector are hot but you do needground to the cluster. Use one of the screws that attach the metal cover to theplastic housing. Don't use the ones that attach the PCB.
When you say your lights are working do you mean dash lights or headlights?
Thanks, Dan
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Thanks,Dan. Should I have a voltage at each pin on the 12 pin connector.ie.the fuel,temp, and amp. My lights are working, I didn't put a ground on the guagecluster itself. can that go on any screw on the back of the cluster. All thescrews on the back go through the pcb.
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I had a hell of a time with the dash in my 70. Must have pulledit out and put it back in 6 times. Make sure that you have the three blackground wires hooked up. One goes to a screw on the cluster, one tothe metal frame of the dash carrier and one to the e-brake. Also didyou put the ground strap back in under the light switch?
My problem turned out to be the headlight switch. Power to the cluster passesthrough this switch. One of the spades slipped out aside the connector andwas not making contact. Here is the topic on chevelles.com. It has somegreat pics and information to diagnose the headlight switch. It alsoincludes information on the 12 pin connector and tests to verify voltageat the fusebox. [http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=260728&highlight=hot+wires+SS+dash] http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=260728&highlight=hot+wires+SS+dash
Dan
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 10:06:28 +0000
From: rml438 at comcast.net
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Subject: [Chevelle-list] wiring question
I setmy restored dash in place and connected the wires, turned the key to acess. andmy temp. fuel, and amp guages did nothing. Should there be a voltage at the 12point plug for each of these three guages. My dash lights work. Turn signalswork. brake lights. All the lights are working. Iam stumped. Any ideas,Thanks.Frustrated.
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